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Zašto uvijek betaš manje od 3/4 na flopu? Mislim da im time daješ dobre oddse za call ako bilo šta imaju. Ali možda sam u krivu, neka bolji kažu
Slazem se, to sam tek prekjucer primjetio, kad sam poceo s analizom handova...
AQo hmmm. ok, 3betan pot, TPTK al rijetko si dobar na turnu. ne znam s cime bi on to napravio a da ga beatas. jedino 45s pa je sad jos dobio i backdoor flush al sanse za to su nikakve
Lik je calling station, mogao je to napraviti s Q,J+, pogotovo ako je pogodio backdoor flush draw
1) Fold preflop, ako si vec callao, ne mozes zgurat na to jbt.. Svi pocket parovi te dobivaju, i sve sedmice imaju jaci kicker.. Imas showdown value, a pokusavas ga izblefat.. ja bi c/c flop, c/f turn
2) Standard, imas srece da je samo callao
3) Ja bi na flopu veci bet, a na turnu manji.. Jer ovako ne mozes foldat zasto sto si previse stavio na turnu.. Iako ne znam jel ovo i trebas foldat..
4) Ne igram full ring, tako da ne znam koliko je dobro ovo limpanje, ali na flopu moras rejzat s namjerom da zguras, jel imas monster draw, i treba to zgurat dok si jos u prednosti.. Ja bi rejzo do 10$ flop, i callo njegov shove, ako bi on samo callo, shove na turnu
5)
Za 1 hand se slazem, opcenito lose odigrano. Fold preflop, al kad ovako padne, nemos samo tako foldati. Iako u ovom slucaju mislim da sam samo callao njegov raise do 4$ na flopu i na turnu kad izadje 2 zgurao all in, prilicno sam siguran da bi ga potjerao.
Bar bi ja foldao da mi neko to napravi.
U drugom handu, nije on samo callao na riveru, nego ja. Previse mi je smrdilo...
Hand 3 se slazem da sam trebao malo vise betat na flopu 3.5-4$, al na turnu mislim da ne smijem ispod 10$ betat kad izlazi druga karta za boju...ne znam.... u svakom slucaju, kad sam vec ovako odigrao, mislim da ne trebam baciti na njegov all-in, kad ja jos imam 10$, a u potu je 40.
4 hand, slazem se sa svima da sam trebao na flopu reagirati...jbg...da sam tu raiseao do 10, mogao bi ustedjeti ostatak stacka...
Evo jos nekih handova
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Hand #1:
PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25
UTG ($28.75)
MP ($17.75)
CO ($18.25)
BTN ($25)
SB ($27.05)
BB (rounder_hr) ($25)
Dealt to BB (rounder_hr)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)
UTG & MP fold, CO raises to $0.75, BTN & SB fold, BB (rounder_hr) calls $0.5
Flop: (Pot is $1.6, 2 players)
BB (rounder_hr) bets $1.5, CO raises to $4, BB (rounder_hr) raises to $14.75, CO raises to $17.5 (All-In), BB (rounder_hr) calls $2.75
Turn: (Pot is $36.6, 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (Pot is $36.6, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Showdown:
CO shows 
(One Pair, Jacks)
BB (rounder_hr) shows
(One Pair, Sevens)
Total Pot: $36.6 | Rake: $1.8
Winners:
CO wins $34.8
Hand #2
PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25
MP ($32.4)
MP+1 ($25.9)
CO ($22.8)
BTN (rounder_hr) ($31.25)
SB ($25.1)
BB ($22.35)
UTG ($13.75)
UTG+1 ($34.45)
Dealt to BTN (rounder_hr)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)
UTG raises to $0.5, UTG+1 folds, MP calls $0.5, MP+1 & CO fold, BTN (rounder_hr) raises to $2, SB & BB fold, UTG calls $1.5, MP folds
Flop: (Pot is $4.85, 2 players)
UTG checks, BTN (rounder_hr) bets $3, UTG calls $3
Turn: (Pot is $10.85, 2 players)
UTG checks, BTN (rounder_hr) checks
River: (Pot is $10.85, 2 players)
UTG bets $4, BTN (rounder_hr) calls $4
Showdown:
BTN (rounder_hr) shows
(Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
UTG shows 
(Three of a Kind, Eights)
Total Pot: $18.85 | Rake: $0.9
Winners:
UTG wins $17.95
Hand #3
PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25
BTN (rounder_hr) ($25.75)
SB ($25)
BB ($29.85)
UTG ($14.35)
CO ($29.35)
Dealt to BTN (rounder_hr) 
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)
UTG folds, CO raises to $0.75, BTN (rounder_hr) raises to $2.5, SB & BB fold, CO calls $1.75
Flop: (Pot is $5.35, 2 players)
CO checks, BTN (rounder_hr) bets $3, CO calls $3
Turn: (Pot is $11.35, 2 players)
CO checks, BTN (rounder_hr) bets $10, CO raises to $23.85 (All-In), BTN (rounder_hr) calls $10.25 (All-In),
River: (Pot is $51.85, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Showdown:
BTN (rounder_hr) shows
(One Pair, Queens)
CO shows 
(Two Pair, Eights and Sixes)
Total Pot: $51.85 | Rake: $2
Winners:
CO wins $49.85
Hand #4
PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25
UTG (rounder_hr) ($25)
UTG+1 ($25)
MP ($31.05)
MP+1 ($29.3)
MP+2 ($18.65)
CO ($27.3)
BTN ($25.45)
SB ($32.95)
BB ($39.7)
Dealt to UTG (rounder_hr)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)
UTG (rounder_hr) calls $0.25, UTG+1 folds, MP raises to $0.75, MP+1 calls $0.75, MP+2 & CO & BTN fold, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.5, UTG (rounder_hr) calls $0.5
Flop: (Pot is $3.75, 5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $3.25, UTG (rounder_hr) calls $3.25, MP & MP+1 & SB fold
Turn: (Pot is $10.25, 2 players)
BB bets $10.25, UTG (rounder_hr) raises to $21 (All-In), BB calls $10.75
River: (Pot is $52.25, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Showdown:
UTG (rounder_hr) shows
(One Pair, Kings)
BB shows 
(Two Pair, Queens and Tens)
Total Pot: $52.25 | Rake: $2.55
Winners:
BB wins $49.7
Hand #5 --------ovo samo kukam
PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($31.35)
MP ($25)
MP+1 ($34.45)
MP+2 ($25)
CO ($23.2)
BTN ($19.65)
SB ($25.55)
BB (rounder_hr) ($27.35)
Dealt to BB (rounder_hr) 
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)
UTG & UTG+1 & MP fold, MP+1 calls $0.25, MP+2 folds, CO raises to $1, BTN folds, SB calls $0.9, BB (rounder_hr) raises to $5, MP+1 folds, CO raises to $23.2 (All-In), SB folds, BB (rounder_hr) calls $18.2
Flop: (Pot is $47.65, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: (Pot is $47.65, 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (Pot is $47.65, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Showdown:
CO shows
(Straight, Ace high)
BB (rounder_hr) shows
(One Pair, Aces)
Total Pot: $47.65 | Rake: $2.35
Winners:
CO wins $45.3
Sta sam ovdje trebao napraviti na riveru?
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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Ring
Small Blind: $0.10
Big Blind: $0.25
BB (rounder_hr) ($28.4)
UTG ($36.2)
MP ($24.5)
CO ($16.55)
BTN ($25.65)
SB ($24.4)
Dealt to BB (rounder_hr)
Preflop: (Pot is: $0.35)
UTG & MP & CO & BTN fold, SB raises to $1, BB (rounder_hr) raises to $2.5, SB calls $1.5
Flop: (Pot is $5, 2 players)
SB checks, BB (rounder_hr) bets $3, SB calls $3
Turn: (Pot is $11, 2 players)
SB checks, BB (rounder_hr) bets $5, SB calls $5
River: (Pot is $21, 2 players)
SB checks, BB (rounder_hr) checks
Showdown:
BB (rounder_hr) shows
(One Pair, Fives)
SB shows
(One Pair, Fives)
Total Pot: $21 | Rake: $1
Winners:
SB wins $20
thx
Isildura1 je naceo durrrr a moze se reci da ga je OMG Clay Aiken unistio!!!
Galfond stvarno ubija....
Na starsu. Banka je jos uvijek u minusu, sad nekih 200$.
Nisam puno igrao u zadnje vrijeme. Od zadnjeg grafa samo 2k handova.
Bolestan sam (upala pluca) vec 2 tjedna, pa uglavnom lezim.
Racunam da cu sljedeci tjedan poceti ponovno aktivno igrati..
BTW, jel mi moze ko objasniti proceduru uploadanja handova, al da se sve fino vidi u bojama (kao sto Tilt radi i croman19), pa da ne bude sve ovako kao na ispisu...
sta se dogodilo sa 25NL?
Nista. Ovo sam opalio samo nekih 600 handova. Ne igram na NL50 jos uvijek
Nisam ovako htio...
Kako da napravim da mi se vide one slicice fino, a ne ovaj text...?
Evo par handova:
Hand #1:
[pokerhand]PokerStars Game #40505242880: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2010/03/01 11:05:36 ET
Table 'Carpenter IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: S_Vogel81 ($50.85 in chips)
Seat 2: rounder_hr ($71.95 in chips)
Seat 3: Knistergrün ($15.75 in chips)
Seat 4: eriklevi ($67.65 in chips)
Seat 5: ratunda ($50 in chips)
Seat 6: 3aHoC ($52.60 in chips)
eriklevi: posts small blind $0.25
ratunda: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to rounder_hr [Jc Ac]
3aHoC: folds
S_Vogel81: folds
rounder_hr: raises $1 to $1.50
Knistergrün: calls $1.50
eriklevi: folds
ratunda: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ad 8d 3c]
rounder_hr: bets $2
Knistergrün: calls $2
*** TURN *** [Ad 8d 3c] [Qs]
rounder_hr: bets $4
Knistergrün: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [Ad 8d 3c Qs] [6h]
rounder_hr: bets $8
Knistergrün: raises $0.25 to $8.25 and is all-in
rounder_hr: calls $0.25
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Knistergrün: shows [Ks As] (a pair of Aces)
rounder_hr: shows [Jc Ac] (a pair of Aces - lower kicker)
Knistergrün collected $30.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $32.25 | Rake $1.55
Board [Ad 8d 3c Qs 6h]
Seat 1: S_Vogel81 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: rounder_hr showed [Jc Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: Knistergrün (button) showed [Ks As] and won ($30.70) with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: eriklevi (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ratunda (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: 3aHoC folded before Flop (didn't bet)
[/pokerhand]
Hand #2:
[pokerhand]PokerStars Game #40226386108: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2010/02/23 18:32:20 ET
Table 'Aegina IV' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Aby71 ($112 in chips)
Seat 2: rounder_hr ($35.15 in chips)
Seat 3: murphyl2422 ($50.25 in chips)
Seat 4: Don_TuCCE ($111.90 in chips)
Seat 5: 682Cowboy ($96.30 in chips)
Seat 6: asseral ($60.10 in chips)
murphyl2422: posts small blind $0.25
Don_TuCCE: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to rounder_hr [Ts Th]
682Cowboy: calls $0.50
asseral has timed out
asseral: folds
Aby71: calls $0.50
rounder_hr: raises $2 to $2.50
murphyl2422: calls $2.25
Don_TuCCE: folds
682Cowboy: folds
Aby71: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc Ad Jd]
murphyl2422: checks
rounder_hr: bets $4
murphyl2422: raises $8 to $12
rounder_hr: raises $20.65 to $32.65 and is all-in
murphyl2422: calls $20.65
*** TURN *** [Tc Ad Jd] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [Tc Ad Jd Kh] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
murphyl2422: shows [Qs Ks] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
rounder_hr: shows [Ts Th] (three of a kind, Tens)
murphyl2422 collected $68.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $71.80 | Rake $3
Board [Tc Ad Jd Kh 9d]
Seat 1: Aby71 folded before Flop
Seat 2: rounder_hr (button) showed [Ts Th] and lost with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 3: murphyl2422 (small blind) showed [Qs Ks] and won ($68.80) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 4: Don_TuCCE (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: 682Cowboy folded before Flop
Seat 6: asseral folded before Flop (didn't bet)
[/pokerhand]
Zasad samo ova dva, jer ne znam kako to izgleda. Prvi put importam hand...
Kakve su KEM karte za trikove?
brate, ovo nije nista. Ja sam danas cuda dozivio na rushu.
popizdio.
Hvala! Cestitke i od mene ostalim izabranima!
+1
Nista, upravo sam otkrio...
Btw, ako koga zanima, ticket se racuna kao cash, a ne kao FPP
BTW, rijec je o Poker Starsu
Mozes.
Odes na CASHIER ---> VIP STORE ---> CATEGORY ---> VIP STELLAR REWARDS ---> najgornji link ti je za tih 10$ i onda samo dolje pri dnu stranice kliknes na BUY
Jel to iko igrao i jel mi moze reci, kad se kvalificiras za visi step, kako da se registriras na njega?
Kad odem na requests-->tournament tickets, pise mi da imam ticket za next step, al kad se odem registrirat da ga odigram, ne da mi opciju da iskoristim ticket, nego samo za FPP...
Moze pomoc, ko je upucen
dogada se i u live igri ne samo online
Pa naravno da se dogadja.
Razlika je jedino u tome sto u live igri za deset noci kartanja odigras oko 3k handova, a na netu za jednako toliko vremena odigras 50-100k handova
Bio je fin turnir. Buy-in 22$, nekih 230 igraca. 27 u lovi, ja ispadnem 31 sa pocket A. JBG
Evo grafa. Nemojte se smijati.
Zadnjih 1k handova sta sam odigrao, ovo su statsi:
PFR%: 18.7
PFR/VPIP ratio: 72.0
vs 3Bet call%: 50.0 --- to jos treba smanjiti
Joj, brate, u banani sam.
Mislim nije jako strasno, al je banka potonula za nekih 250$.
Vecinom na NL25.
Uglavnom, nisam bas puno igrao u zadnje vrijeme.
Lezao sam u bolnici nekih 5 dana i sad sam kod kuce jos uvijek na terapiji. Pokupio upalu pluca.
Vise ucim i radim na igri. Otkrio sam dosta gresaka u igri i sad to mijenjam.
Uglavnom, statistike mi se popravljaju po HEM-u, iako banka ne ide gore.
Postat cu ih kasnije. Igram neki deepstack turnir i dobro stojim, pa da ne remetim igru
Evo, ja sam procitao prije dan-dva "Let there be range", i moram reci da mi je u potpunosti promijenila pogled na poker...
Predobra stvar...nacin razmisljanja...
Realno, smatram da coaching ne treba placat nitko ko igra ispod NL100.
Nije sto mu nebi koristilo, nego jednostavno si ne mozes to priustiti.
Kako da ovdje postam handove koje odigram?
hrvoje07 napisao:joke?
vise vrijedi random coach sa nekog training sitea nego njih dvoje SKUPA
+1
I nije to bas tako.
Za Laaka mozda, al sam prilicno uvjeren da je Lederer dobar coach
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